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RAM needed a full sized SUV, 10 years ago! Imagine how much better it could have been than a Tahoe. Alas, EV is coming fast.

More Power should be easy enough. But nothing? That is cool, I mean any options it is missing or something there that should not be?

What is it missing? No vehicle is perfect, so what would you change?

True - somewhat. TPBM is having a Military weekend this week - and Thank you

Pretty equal. Each has their own qualities good and bad. The Camaro will run circles on the Challenger in terms of twisties but the Challenger is a Brute. With the Wide Body it handles very well though, just not Camaro well, and neither does the Mustang for that matter. 2 different cars...

I had a 2020 2SS, engine blew at 11K miles and almost exactly 1 year after I bought it new. Sold it to the dealer fixing it and bought a 2021 Scatpack Wide Body Challenger.

My Scatpack 392 is 485hp 475tq 😬

Nope. When my Camaro died, I looked at a lot of vehicles including Tesla, Hellcat Wide Body among others. The tesla was off the list fast. Braking sucked, handling sucked. Sure was fast as hell in a straight line but it was cometely numb.

I left out the Lightning because it is not out. The Rivian is

Electric is numb - fast - but numb. Now that said, an electric rock crawler would be a BEAST - imagine just turning a knob to maneuver the articulation. The problem is no 220V plug in at the top of the "peak"

The TRX and Rivian are equal in just about every metric - including offroad, price, speed... Personally I am a ICE man. I love my 392. I had the option of Tesla S and/or Hellcat. I chose ICE because as stated above, I like the feedback. The rumble, the sound, rowing the gears. It is not...

The one i built loaded out was $85k

They are officially delivering them to customers. First one rolled off a piece back.

Rivian looks to be decent offroad. And very fast 0 to 60 and 1/4mile. About the same range in miles. And priced close to the same Discuss?

Nice! Time for a brake upgrade

I like ibuypower PCs for prebuilt - there are others but these guys have done me well. You can go on their site and find a rig that fits your needs and budget. I usually build my own and do not recommend that to someone without knowledge try to, due to cost of an ooops and like G said, right...

Win 10 Case = CORSAIR - Graphite Series 780T Full-Tower PC Case - Black Power Supply = EVGA SuperNOVA 1000W ATX 80 Plus Gold Fully Modular MB = Gigabyte Z490 AORUS Master CPU = Intel i9-10900K RAM = G.Skill Ripjaws V 32GB DDR4 PC4-28800 3600Mhz CPU Cooler = CORSAIR iCUE H150i ELITE...

2021 Challenger R/T Scatpack Widebody 392