I can't work on my truck today, entertain me !

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This is to a "T" what is going on in industry ... Training is all done through paperwork and by people who have never done the job. But the pc of paper says it is so...

 

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This is to a "T" what is going on in industry ... Training is all done through paperwork and by people who have never done the job. But the pc of paper says it is so...

I ran into that when I was working. I had to edit the J.S.A.'s our new manager came up with. He was upset that I would DARE to contradict him. Hmmm.....let's see, he got out of school a year before. I had 45 ears experience, 10 as a trouble shooter. It went all the way to the plant manager. He was gone before I retired.

 

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I ran into that when I was working. I had to edit the J.S.A.'s our new manager came up with. He was upset that I would DARE to contradict him. Hmmm.....let's see, he got out of school a year before. I had 45 ears experience, 10 as a trouble shooter. It went all the way to the plant manager. He was gone before I retired.

Yup .. I retired and they asked me to come back .. no one else qualified to do the work.. I'm waiting for someone to train but if not by a date I have set then I'll leave them hanging ..
We used to call the JSA's now we call them JHA's .. "Job hazard analysis" but same thing

 

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Yup .. I retired and they asked me to come back .. no one else qualified to do the work.. I'm waiting for someone to train but if not by a date I have set then I'll leave them hanging ..
We used to call the JSA's now we call them JHA's .. "Job hazard analysis" but same thing

I trained my replacement for 2 years. He never bothered to learn the job. They even added a second person about 3 months before I retired. He tried but wasn't able to do it. The first one was buddies with the foreman and the second, a good guy but barely able to turn a computer on.

The first week after I retired, I got several calls from Corporate asking what was going on as reports were no longer being filed and why wasn't I answering my Company phone. I told them I didn't have the hone anymore and it wasn't my job to file logistic reports when I didn't have an account on the server. When asked why not, I told them I retired and the office knew it was coming for 1 1/2 years.

I've heard there's been some consternation at the plant.

 

[MO VietVet]

I trained my replacement for 2 years. He never bothered to learn the job. They even added a second person about 3 months before I retired. He tried but wasn't able to do it. The first one was buddies with the foreman and the second, a good guy but barely able to turn a computer on.

The first week after I retired, I got several calls from Corporate asking what was going on as reports were no longer being filed and why wasn't I answering my Company phone. I told them I didn't have the hone anymore and it wasn't my job to file logistic reports when I didn't have an account on the server. When asked why not, I told them I retired and the office knew it was coming for 1 1/2 years.

I've heard there's been some consternation at the plant.

Just like this and other stories here, I dread the automotive repair industry getting farther and farther behind because of the people even attempting to move in the field for a career. I have seen young guys here in my office that see my ASE Master Tech certification and my ASE Service Consultant certification and while they know what they are, they are of the mindset that if they have a box full of tools, they are set. I ask about training, either in tech school or on the job training. Then I get the deer in the headlights look. Automotive skills are just not taught in schools any more and lots of the "pay for school" programs are the puppy mills of the auto repair career. You have to want it to succeed in this field and the awakening is coming before we all know it.

I really don't trust anyone but my self to touch my rig but thankfully I have a friend that is highly skilled in the area and he owns a shop. I can use his lift after hours and he helps too but when I move soon, to Warrensburg, Mo., I am going to be at a disadvantage again but I will survive that.

 

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Just like this and other stories here, I dread the automotive repair industry getting farther and farther behind because of the people even attempting to move in the field for a career. I have seen young guys here in my office that see my ASE Master Tech certification and my ASE Service Consultant certification and while they know what they are, they are of the mindset that if they have a box full of tools, they are set. I ask about training, either in tech school or on the job training. Then I get the deer in the headlights look. Automotive skills are just not taught in schools any more and lots of the "pay for school" programs are the puppy mills of the auto repair career. You have to want it to succeed in this field and the awakening is coming before we all know it.

I was getting out of the repair business back in the early 80's about when ASE started getting going. Some of the certifications are pretty good but I've seen some real idiots with ASE certificates. I also have seen people claiming them that didn't have them. I've had 20 year old idiots telling me I'm wrong on something I've worked on for 50 years. Especially brakes. They see something on Fakebook about cooler thermostats give you more power and when I tell them about "Open Loop" mode, they say it's fake news.

 

[MO VietVet]

My first wrench I ever turned was in my home driveway. My dad showed me what was going on. Worked on all my vehicles. Then I went in to it for a career. Then I worked in the field for close to 15 years before became certified. I have seen ASE Master Techs that were worthless. I have seen non certified techs that can do it all. My certs got me more money, period. Did not make me smarter or more qualified but was a way to show the public because ASE really put out the ad campaigns about those certs. Hell, I don't know it all but if I don't know it, I know how to find out what I need to know and retain that info moving forward. Yea, have heard the cooler thermostat story many times. A lot like the kids/guys/girls that came to my shops and wanted to go FAST. I told them that I could help but would not do anything without an inspection first. They asked "why"? I told them I would not take their "go fast" $ till I checked the suspension/steering/brakes to make sure those systems could handle the power because I was not going to be liable for their foolishness that could cause problems from a trash heap under the vehicle. Some actually listened and others walked away.

 

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My first wrench I ever turned was in my home driveway. My dad showed me what was going on. Worked on all my vehicles. then I went in to it for a career. Then I worked in the field for close to 15 years before became certified. I have seen ASE Master Techs that were worthless. I have seen non certified techs that can do it all. My certs got me more money, period. Did not make me smarter or more qualified but was a way to show the public because ASE really put out the ad campaigns about those certs. Hell, I don't know it all but if I don't know it, I know how to find out what I need to know and retain that info moving forward. Yea, have heard the cooler thermostat story many times. A lot like the kids/guys/girls that came to my shops and wanted to go FAST. I told them that I could help but would not do anything without an inspection first. They asked "why"? I told them I would not take their "go fast" $ till I checked the suspension/steering/brakes to make sure those systems could handle the power because I was not going to be liable for their foolishness that could cause problems from a trash heap under the vehicle. Some actually listened and others walked away.

My Grandfather was a Master Tool and Die maker. Between him and his friends who learned mechanics in the military, both World Wars, I got a reputation for being a miracle worker finding, and fixing really odd problems. My best three tools are a wooden dowel rod, a vacuum gauge and a volt/ohm meter. I even have a dwell/tachometer around the garage sosmewhere.

 

[MO VietVet]

I used to have a Snap On dwell meter a long time ago. Some here may not even know what it was used for, unless they look it up. Prehistoric technology comes to mind.

Like you, I have my favorite tools too. My DVOM, my mechanic's stethoscope that took the place of an assortment of long thin screwdrivers and of course my vacuum gauge. I do love my infrared temp gun though.

 

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I used to have a Snap On dwell meter a long time ago. Some here may not even know what it was used for, unless they look it up. Prehistoric technology comes to mind.

Like you, I have my favorite tools too. My DVOM, my mechanic's stethoscope that took the place of an assortment of long thin screwdrivers and of course my vacuum gauge. I do love my infrared temp gun though.

The infrared temp is one of the better tools to come along in some time. It can really cut the diagnostic time down.

 

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