S&B initial thoughts & measures

[OnTheReel]

Got the S&B installed first thing this morning. Install was very simple, especially since I had already been in there once to fit the Super Stock tube. Took a little over an hour. Honestly the hardest part was struggling with the stupid clear plastic lid. Took some wrestling to get it in.

Everything looks and fits good though.

It even clears the UPR catch can which was a huge relief.

Driving impressions: The sound with the lid on is identical to the AFE Super Stock. I would have never known the intake was even swapped. It will be noticeable if you’re going from stock to the S&B though. Sounds good. Not obnoxious. Very subtle in auto mode and more vocal in sport when you wind it out.

For some basic testing, I did 5 0-60 Dragy runs with the Super Stock first. Based on Dragy data, ambient temp was 70 degrees, DA was 1682ft. Truck had half tank of 92 octane fuel.

The average 0-60 time with the Super Stock was 4.48 seconds.

After installing the S&B, I drove around a bit to let the truck relearn and warm everything up. I was able to test in very similar weather conditions, and on the same roads. 5 runs, just like the AFE. Temperature was 70, DA was 1666.

I also filled up on fuel before the S&B tests, so the truck was actually around 100lbs heavier. Even still, I recorded an average 0-60 with the S&B of 4.33 seconds. Nice little improvement.

For all tests, I used LC at 2000 rpm. Intake temps were about the same, between 115-125. Coolant, oil and trans temps all at 200-205. IC coolant temp remained consistent too.

I also watched the boost gauge easily hit 11 PSI with the S&B during the runs. I never got over 10 with the AFE in testing, or in regular driving over the last month or two. So their claim of a 1 PSI boost is accurate and lines up with the improvements I measured. Not life changing but there’s worse ways to spend $700 I guess.

 

[quietpeen]

Great review. Now drive around without that plastic cover on.

 

[OnTheReel]

Great review. Now drive around without that plastic cover on.

Maybe in the next couple days. Not super excited to take it off considering the fight it wanted to put up.

 

[quietpeen]

I guess it needs to be a snug fit to keep water out

 

[OnTheReel]

Yeah. Think it’s better than a bunch of screws at least. Certainly looks cleaner.

 

[quietpeen]

Yeah. Think it’s better than a bunch of screws at least. Certainly looks cleaner.

yup. My thinking is it would be nice to be a little easier to remove an install so for regular street driving you could ride with the cover off, but when you want to go off-road throw the cover back on to help keep the filter cleaner.

 

[OnTheReel]

Alright…

It’s definitely louder. But it sounds pretty good and the intake air temperatures weren’t all that much higher. Maybe a 5 degree swing.

I did put the lid back on but for someone wanting a dual personality intake, it’s cool that S&B gives you that option.

 

[quietpeen]

thanks for doing that. I like it. I’m sure the video doesn’t sound as good as in person too.

 

[OnTheReel]

that’s for doing that. I like it. I’m sure the video doesn’t sound as good as in person too.

Yeah, it never comes through quite so well on film. I think it would probably get a little old on the day to day driving but like I said, it’s cool to have that option.

You thinking about grabbing one?

 

[quietpeen]

Yeah, it never comes through quite so well on film. I think it would probably get a little old on the day to day driving but like I said, it’s cool to have that option.

You thinking about grabbing one?

Not ready to get anything yet, but the s&b is now higher on the list than it was before.

 

[tinman454]

Nice job looks great

 

[cmw1100]

Got the S&B installed first thing this morning. Install was very simple, especially since I had already been in there once to fit the Super Stock tube. Took a little over an hour. Honestly the hardest part was struggling with the stupid clear plastic lid. Took some wrestling to get it in.

Everything looks and fits good though.
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It even clears the UPR catch can which was a huge relief.
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Driving impressions: The sound with the lid on is identical to the AFE Super Stock. I would have never known the intake was even swapped. It will be noticeable if you’re going from stock to the S&B though. Sounds good. Not obnoxious. Very subtle in auto mode and more vocal in sport when you wind it out.

For some basic testing, I did 5 0-60 Dragy runs with the Super Stock first. Based on Dragy data, ambient temp was 70 degrees, DA was 1682ft. Truck had half tank of 92 octane fuel.

The average 0-60 time with the Super Stock was 4.48 seconds.

After installing the S&B, I drove around a bit to let the truck relearn and warm everything up. I was able to test in very similar weather conditions, and on the same roads. 5 runs, just like the AFE. Temperature was 70, DA was 1666.

I also filled up on fuel before the S&B tests, so the truck was actually around 100lbs heavier. Even still, I recorded an average 0-60 with the S&B of 4.33 seconds. Nice little improvement.

For all tests, I used LC at 2000 rpm. Intake temps were about the same, between 115-125. Coolant, oil and trans temps all at 200-205. IC coolant temp remained consistent too.

I also watched the boost gauge easily hit 11 PSI with the S&B during the runs. I never got over 10 with the AFE in testing, or in regular driving over the last month or two. So their claim of a 1 PSI boost is accurate and lines up with the improvements I measured. Not life changing but there’s worse ways to spend $700 I guess.

Thanks for the write up. I’m in split minds - S&B Vs AFe

 

[OnTheReel]

Thanks for the write up. I’m in split minds - S&B Vs AFe

They are likely to be evenly matched as far as airflow. My logic was:

1) The AFE seems a little more complicated with two tubes, two filters, etc.
2) The AFE supposedly doesn’t clear my catch can.

On the flip side, the AFE uses nicer clamps and can theoretically be had cheaper if you can find one.

 

[quietpeen]

Just ordered one of these intakes with the dry extendable filter. I went to S&B's website and it showed in stock so I jumped before they could sell out Yesterday when I looked on their site it said Backordered, so I feel good that they are actually available.

 

[OnTheReel]

Sweet. I’m still loving this setup. I do still kinda want to order one of the dry filters to swap it out if I know I’m going in dusty conditions. But not a big deal.

 

[quietpeen]

Sweet. I’m still loving this setup. I do still kinda want to order one of the dry filters to swap it out if I know I’m going in dusty conditions. But not a big deal.

Did you look to see how much just the filter costs? $139 Just that made me almost go with the oiled filter, but I wasn't really interested in dealing with washing and oiling a filter.

 

[quietpeen]

well son of a...................................... Just got an email:

One or more of the items you ordered is on backorder (see the attached sales order), but the good news is that it should ship within 7 days or sooner as we have greatly increased the amount of parts we can make on a daily basis.
An exception to this would be a few of our Particle Separators and Tanks that may have a slightly longer delay due to a component backlog with our supplier.

Thank you in advance for your understanding and support.

Sincerely,

S&B Filters Customer Service
909-947-0015

Then the sale order says expected ship date of 9/27. Don't show it in stock if it isn't effen in stock.

 

[OnTheReel]

I dunno how many times I’ve been tricked like that but it’s getting old. Most recently crank bolts that are “in stock”…still haven’t shipped.

 

[quietpeen]

I'm betting that it is the dry filter that is putting my order on backorder. On their website the oiled version still says in stock, but now the dry filter says backordered again.

 

[OnTheReel]

Could be like me and order the dry but received the oiled anyway. Like I said, I guess I don’t really care as long as I have the intake. Definitely not worth spending the $140 right now.

I figure maybe by the time this one is due for cleaning I can pick up a dry and use it while the oiled one gets cleaned and serviced. I really hate doing it though. I remember over-oiling the piss out of the first couple K&Ns I did back in the day.